John the rhetoric is coming faster than the number of new owners. These grandiose plans are fine but why didn't you think of this before the mistakes were made.

It falls under leadership, foresight and planning. You have to clean up one mess before you start another and you owe to the workers who lost their jobs to get it right.

"Look at me, look at me". Says the one who list among his lifes accomplishements as having had an article printed NEXT to one of Andy Rooneys'. Kinda like putting on your resume about the time you were in an elevator with Walter Cronkite. Is there anything he won't comment on? Is there ever going to be a positive utterance?

Night after night he pecks away. Alone in his room again. Hatred so consuming, few can stand to be near. Reality evading nearly every thought, he pecks away, alone in his room again. In dementia or death he may find peace, only to be remembered for a legacy of despair and darkness. Pathetic dog. You do know me ........... well.

Buzz, always so butt hurt. Why do you feel the need to be so negative Buzz? Of your over 1 million posts, I have yet to see a post that wasn't negative, with numerous grammatical errors. Andy Rooney would roll over in his grave if he knew you were dropping his name to promote your horrible writings.

I've often seen you at community meetings, wearing shirts you have no business wearing, and you never say anything publicly. Why Buzz? Are you so butt hurt that you have to stay in your room? You hide behind your "blog" and point to other articles written by people who can articulate a thought?

What was the last article written about Buzz "butt-hurt" Beeler? There isn't any. That's because you are like a stage four cancer tumor on the community, eating away at anything positive.

If you want to be butt hurt all the time, that's fine, but do it at a place where people like you. I'm not sure if this place exists, but hey, if you drive far enough away from Baltimore County you might find it :)

Buzz, try to get your facts in order before you blurt. The steel mill started dying long before our distinguished delegate was even out of high school. Moreover, had the federal government intervened, as it should have, when cheap foreign steel was being dumped In the United States, the steel industry might have survived. Lastly, you do seem to attack any effort, by anyone who tries to make our community better. Apparently if it's not your idea, it's not worthy.

Gene, yes you are correct, the mill has been in decline. It is now closed and on whose watch?

You mentioned a key word in your comment, the government. I don't attack. They have their spin, I have mine. If things were so great I wouldn't have anything to write about now would I.

Isn't it strange that folks talk about attacking and my name is the only one mentioned as an attacker, when in fact I'm the one mostly being attacked. Read the post of these who are so timid they hide behind some name (they feel is - neat -) and apply some less than intellectual or intelligent babble.

Gene like you said get your facts in order before you post.

You see it works like this, people read what I write and that is good. Know one has to agree me but the facts and the STATE OF THE UNION speak for themselves.

The government, here is your government at work. I send a e-mail praising two paramedics to Chief Hohman weeks ago. Now you would think that someone making $180 grand a year could take a second to have some one respond or acknowledge these two fine professionals. Nah, he's too busy counting his million dollar payout.

Was the Sparrows Point Steel Plant really a victim of the world and the economy or did the greedy unions kill the plant?

Should never attack anyone else's usage or grammar again.

Buzz,
Who was on watch when the mill's work force starting dropping from the 30,000 plus employees and all the years since? Under your theory, 911 was George W's fault, because it was his watch. Damn you George!

One who poses as a writer. Stick to shrimpin' with your best friend.

To never lose control ....... the soft white underbelly of the serpent shows pink. Eyes red with rage. Scared, scarred ...... scathed. Recount, reject and rejoice ...... you'll find your peace.

Wow Buzz! Are you actually reading the substance of my contributions, or are your responses for a conversation we have not yet had?

I didn't find anything at Barnes and Noble under Charles "Buzz" Beeler either...Buzz, what Barnes and Noble did you go to? I know it wasn't in Dundalk...god forbid a store worth going to come into Dundalk...

Buzz,
For the record, who was on watch for the other 33,000 +/- jobs that have evaporated between Bethlehem's hay day and now? I can say with complete confidence it was not John, Jr.. So, may I ask for purposes of clarity, is it your contention that those previously lost jobs are unimportant? And that those in office: local, State, and Federal weren't complicit in the demise of the U. S. steel industry?

I agree with Buzz. Where were all these wonderful ideas about using the property for other opportunities when the Shipyard folded? Or in the late 1990's when the new Cold Mill came online? Politicians are like vultures circling the carcass of a beast that isn't dead just yet..........

80cycles, did you really ask where these ideas were over 20 years ago? That's like asking why wasn't the internet around during the great depression!

I think we were in the black when Clinton was in office, if I am not mistaken? Good ole' G. W. comes along and decides to send out checks to everyone and their mother, and then decides to start two wars...now that was economic leadership at its best! haha...btw, how is Halliburton doing these days? haha...

I'll leave your grammar alone and focus on your comments.

Are we in the black now? How much has Obama added to the deficit much less the debt. We are still at war but how would you know that when reading is a challenge for you.

Is Halliburton anything like Lehman Brohters, or Solyndra? It's G.W.B. for the record and besides Clinton's record is stained.

This Old Fart is Nuts . I hope Patch realizes this.

Buzz, is your mission in life to make a sow's ear out if every silk purse you encounter?

Gene, do you believe in Santa Klaus, because if you don't you just destroyed one of the greats stories ever told. The difference between you and I is truth and the facts. Don't let them get in the way.

Buzz was a two bit cop and now wants to be the grammar police, ha-ha. Coming from a guy who has multiple spelling and grammatical errors in his attempt to write a news article. Ha-ha

Really Buzz, "The have a corrections box" ha-ha. There isn't enough text in this box to point to all of your errors. This guy is a joke! haha.

Buzztard wouldn't know the truth if it punched him in his puss.

AA if I was writing falsehoods then challenge me with facts not cartoon characters.

Gene, yes I give credence to any legitimate articulation whether or not it agrees with me. I always look at the issues not party lines. I thought Bush was one of the worst presidents this country ever had.

de.nielson, go away where? Did you take over as the boss of bosses. What are the facts? You never mention them. I know a lot. Remember where I worked and for how long. You get to know people quite well during all those years.

By what is your rating system based on? Personal knowledge, contacts, links, or just rhetoric.

Tell the truth and live and let live.

Buzz,
You really need to get out of the house more.

Buzz,
Your use of rhetoric and facts may well be the biggest conundrum I've seen in years, maybe longer.

The FACT is you were not injured in the line of duty as you have claimed. It was off duty and it was your road rage that caused it. To thine own self be true. It goes to credibility.

AA, think what ever you want. While you do be careful not to fry the gray matter.

Gene, forgive me for saying this (I just couldn't help myself) I don't use conundrum's.

Steve, I would be careful using a photo of someone else without permission. Patch is a big network and if that person finds out, you might lose your 401 C ($4.01).

It takes me a while to answer this fan mail. Sorry for the delay.

Gentlemen, Please stop the personal back-and-forth attacks or I will close the comments. If you have something to say about the article, or add to the discussion about the delegate's message, fine. If not, don't post anything. Thanks, Marge.

Buzz you are a serial liar, and a blight on the community.

It is censorship. One puts himself out there as a supposed authority on virtually everthing. Patch supports this nonsense by continuing to provide the the vehicle by which he spews his poison unfettered. One will go away because its an unsupported, unsustainable business model. The other goes away due to natural selection. But not before both leave unrepairable damage to the community in their wake. Civics in its ugliest form. Remember, a fish starts stinking from its head. You can't let one person say what ever he or she wants about anyone or anything. Blog, then comment on his own words, then censor the fallout that ensues.

Why doesn't the delegate debate the discourse rather than have this group continue to attack me. He wrote the blog. Is he afraid to respond to his own word, or does he wish to have others speak for him.

Ginzo your are implying to a letter wrote to the Eagle regarding Seagram's. Threre were facts stated in that letter. If the person referred to in that letter feels libeled then he should consult an attorney.

To accuse me of being a serial liar and a blight on the community, without any documentation is rather serious.

Marge,
I appreciate your concerns and position, but isn't this exchange an example, albeit lowly, of freedom of speech? Words not that dissimilar to these are routinely published in the Eagle. Please explain how the Patch is different.
Thank you

Jimmy, I have no best buddies in politics. I have praised John before on his immigration stance. I call them the way I see them. My opinion changed somewhat when I saw John running on the Stone and Minnick ticket show up on a Kamanentz float. I thought it was playing both sides against the middle.

AA you are very abet at what you claim I do. Read you comments towards me. I articulate, I don't denigrate.

You're upset because you and I don't see it the same way.

Jimmy, on Stone I was being very objective at the time.

If I wrote what was really said to me, I don't think you would be commenting as such. I chose not to print the response because it violated the standards of use.

Did you just throw out the word "discourse" for what is going on on this page?

The above is probably why most politicians don't post to this site, and why even fewer will then respond to the absurd comments/name-calling/"discourse".

Buzz,
You may not be aware of this but there is word document software that has a grammar and spell check feature. In an effort to make your comments more credible write them in that software first. Then access the grammar and spell check feature. Once you've confirmed its accuracy, copy it and paste it in here.

Ginoz, you forgot a colon, a comma, using plural vs singular, i.e. - grammar and spell check are two features, not one.

The features you speak of are not by any means fool proof. I use them when I write my blogs. I have them prof read by professionals and they still can miss many issues.

Read any major publication and you will find errors. The Sun run's a daily correction box.

Let me give you a classic example of the reality of typos and how the best make them. Remember Watergate?

http://www.hrc.utexas.edu/exhibitions/web/woodstein/post/lewis_scan.html

Matthew I know the incident you are referring to. I did not reveal the comment out of personal choice. I'm a big boy and by repeating that would have served no purpose as related to the article.

From a personal stand point it would have greatly strengthen my position. If I respond the people do towards me this person could of had a tough road to travel by his own choice of words.

To me it was a maturity issue. I have a thick skin.