It sounds a little like putting out a fire with gasoline.

Yeah, see doing this won't end well. All this is going to do is promote more violence, both at the kid and parent level.

Unless the father has a criminal record of violent behavior, the "no bail" status is ridiculous given the reported facts.

Yes. He went too far.

Amy, The police and the School administration has enough to do. The kids who bully think it is appropiate to do so. Descipline starts in the home as to how they should conduct themselves.If the schools have to do something they should have them sit in the front of the school with a dunce hat on.Embarrassment would certainly do the trick.

Where are the parents of the kids that beat up this young student? The parents of the kids that committed this act should be held accountable along with the school administration that did nothing! Does it take another death of a child bullied for people to wake up! Any person caught bullying should have automatic suspension. They should have mandatory classes to attend to prevent future bullying. Better yet, let them see how it feels to be bullied, maybe that would make a change in their behavior.

I would say its time to start punishing the parents of the kids that are doing the bullying. Throw them in jail and take away their kids for bad parenting. As a past person that was bullied, I am scarred for life and I am very anti-social. I keep to myself, and hardly ever speak in public because of the fact that I am now afraid of what people will think. Id rather be home behind my doors then out socializing. It has affected my work environment.

I see his anger, but he did do the wrong thing.

K Blue, The Father wanted to take the law into his own hands. Not a smart thing to do.Until all the Real facts are put on the table we should reserve our judgement. : "No Bail" seemed to be going into the extreme but I think it was just sending a message to the public. Parents don't want their kids to be victims of abuse by their classmates and this should be a "message" that some parents will not stand for it. Hopefully, both the parents and the students, "who think they can bully another " will see how things can escalate out of control.

Isn't the real question: "Was the system correct in doing absolutely nothing to resolve this situation in the first place so that the father didn't feel that he had to take matters into his own hands?"

This was a bullying issue. The Dad intervened and let the bully know his actions wll NOT be tolerated.

The schools have never done much to intervene or punish bullies. Instead the victim is made to feel at fault for ALLOWING himself to be bullied!

How many more victims of bullies need to feel driven to suicide because of bullying's terrible abuse?

Stop bullying now! If you see it happening intervene and get the bullies to the authorities and make them take appropriate action.

Bullying is a CRIME!

According to our illustrious SA Scott Shellenberge and is assistant Ms. Slazk there was no crime. Cyber bulling only occurs when a life is threaten so I was told by the police who followed Shellenberger's stance.

Had the authorities addressed this in the beginning the hand grenade would not have go off.

Hey 81009 whatever, go someplace and spam your junk.

You can't abduct someone else's kid no matter what they did - besides, the kid is just behaving the way he was taught by his upbringing. It always starts at home. Anyone who thinks "job well done" by the father is a nut in my book.
Vigilante much?

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Jon, noone is suggesting breaking the law on the part of the father who felt victimized.

I blame the SA and Shellenberger and Johnson for their total lack of the knowledge of the law. As soon as Shellenbeger returns my PIA I going to blog this problem.

The solution is accountability, not protecting the politicians who run the system.

The father may technically have gone too far, but I think he was really just making a citizen's arrest, and maybe he should have taken the bully to the police station and pressed charges. I also wonder how he was able to get the kid to come into his car. If he had half a brain he would have run away. The no bail condition IMHO is a constitutional violation and the charge of kidnapping is over the top. If this bully is not properly punished he will think he can continue his criminal behavior. I was bullied 50 years ago when I was in JHS and the authorities would not do anything even then. Things are much worse now.

My only point is that it crossed the line and it seems nobody really disputes that. I agree bullying is a huge problem - I have pre-school age children and it's daunting to consider what they're in for - I just do the best I can, as any parent should.
I certainly couldn't swear that I'd never do anything rash like this - now that I'm a parent I understand it some.

What is really sad is that this bully's mother was on TV spouting the "not my little angel" garbage. She takes no responsibility for the actions of her child. It was wrong of the father to get this kid to get into his car, but as a parent, he was frustrated with the system. I don't think he intended or thought this to be considered kidnapping.

I think parents should be held accountable for there kids actions, What ever your kid gets you get. He gets detention for bullying you get to come serve it with him, He gets community service you get to do it with him. When parents dont care, Kids dont care. Unfortunatley you dont need to get a permit to have a Kid. I would Vote for that.

Oh, And I would not have taken the kid into my car but i can assure you after I got done with an intimidating conversation he would be running home cryoing to his parents about what happend. They would be knocking on my door for an intervention. My kids are trained in Martial arts from age 5 and have my permission to kick the crap out of any one who does not leave them alone after two warnings with no repercusions from home and they are also taught to protect others who are not strong enough to stand up for them selves.

Yes, he is the adult here and clearly went to far. We cannot do our own policing no matter how much we want to. There are reasons for that. However I can understand the actions. Bullying creates a victim that feels powerless to stop the abuse. The "system" is supposed to step in and prevent it from occurring. That system failed here and fails all the time. It's only natural to want to protect your child. And truthfully it's only natural to want the bully to receive a taste of his own medicine. However, the proper course of action would have been speaking with school administration and demanding something be done immediately to correct the hostile school environment. Having been the victim of bullying throughout middle and high school I feel for the child who was being bullied. And despite the fact that I believe it his dad went too far I would be a liar if I didn't admit that the wounded bullied child inside of me is cheering him on. That victim inside wishes someone had stuck up for me and yelled obscenities at the bullies who pulled my hair and constanly called me names. If that makes me a bad person so be it.

The parents of the bully sounds like half of this city's parents that think their little pos never does any wrong. They don't punish their children and if anyone else even thinks about calling their little pos out, they must have the problem because their little pos is an innocent victim who does no wrong.

An interesting perspective from Jean Marbella and the Sun.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-marbella-school-kidnapping-20121124,0,647439.story

Paul,neither the police or the SA's Shellenberger even know what the law is. The police have a unit and Sellenberger does not.

Shellenberger assistant DA Ms. Slazek says oh well you wanted to go on the internet and that's the way it is.

Would be nice if the right new what the left was doing.

No problem Scot and Slazek!

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2012-04-16/news/bal-cyberbullying-takes-a-fatal-toll-on-maryland-student-20120416_1_cyber-bullying-shaniya-boyd-fatal-toll

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/keyword/cyber-bullying

If you can't read a law book at least read the papers.

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