An interesting question was raised on the responsibility of the developer if he gets the zoning request and sells the property. The answer provided by the project manager said that the developer could sell the land and the responsibility would then fall on the new owner concerning the VCP.

It also sounds strange that no progress on the VCP is expected to take place for at least 30 days which would put the time frame on the same schedule as the council vote on the zoning issue.

In order for the county to issue certain permits there is a protocol that must be established by the developer and so far no permits have been issued.

The zoning is the key to this entire matter and once that takes the place the developer can sell it to the highest bidder and walk away.

What is involved in capping it?

If it's only arsenic and copper it would be much cheaper to phytoremediate the property.

The council will vote on the zoning before Mr. Vontran has to lift a finger at capping it. Once he gets the zoning change, (if he gets it) he can sell the property to the highest bidder and the liability falls on them. He get's his money and the developer gets their land.

He admitted that all of he other development concepts were just ideas and like I said there were never any intentions of building a government center on that property unless the county engaged in the swap which would have been a bad financial move based on the value of the two lands.

He said nothing about his contacts with Target and any reasons as to what happened regarding that issue.

Mr. Vontran also said he was open to any suggestions regarding development of the land.

The county won't issue permits until a certain protocol is followed.

The liability doesn't fall on the new buyer. Depends on if they want to accept it or not. Contaminated sites are "cradle to grave" liability wise unless the new owner agrees to accept the liability. On this site the contamination isn't all that bad.

"Selling to the highest bidder" isn't that what Capitalism is all about?

The property cannot be developed unless remediation is done period. That is the law. With the zoning request of a Tier-1 B (residential, mixed use with restrictions) meaning remediation is mandatory.

Go to MDE VCP Requirements and read it. Steve doesn't read or research too often and can't even get his own name straight. This is the link to the requirements. I suggest you read them.

http://www.mde.state.md.us/programs/Land/MarylandBrownfieldVCP/Pages/programs/landprograms/errp_brownfields/forms/index.aspx

Once again Steve or whatever AKA he uses fails to reply with a KNOWLEDGEABLE response.

The link contains the concise answers.

Where did I say the site didn't have to be remediated??

You spent your whole life sitting in a cubbyhole calibrating Breathalyzers and now you think you are some kind of environmental engineer.

You should stick to begging for doughnuts.

Your own words. You were responding to my comment on the requirements of the developer to remediate the site.

Your quote: "The liability doesn't fall on the new buyer. Depends on if they want to accept it or not."

Now I can't help it if you can't figure out who you are or what you are, that's your problem. Also you made the comment on the legality of the issue as if your were the expert. I simply use the states website. I can't help it if you can't figure out how to access it and comprehend what is states.

Again you are in over your education level and reading ability.

Peace and Love you should check out the creditability of your source before you praise their knowledge.

Where did I say the property doesn't have to be remediated before it's developed?

I didn't. It's just typical "Ready! Shoot! Aim!" Beeker.

I am an environmental engineer. I work on contaminated sites for a living.

You can't even read your own quote. You have a problem. You spoke about your work in one of your other aliases and it had nothing to do with your wild statement, like your claim of speaking six languages, having three collage degrees and being in three wars.

There is a medical name for that.

By the way, they stopped using the term Breathalyzer years ago. They don't even use the term anymore in this state. As I pointed out you in way over your head and you still can't spell.

ROTFLMAO Now you are trying to tell me what I do for a living? UNBELIEVABLE

Should I give my paycheck back??

What the heck is a "collage" degree? ........ and you have the nerve to complain about my spelling???

Steve- You're not asking the right questions or checking all the available
data. Your comments are NOT credible. Good try!

Which comment did I make that is not credible?

Typo's aside, (my bad) your name is not credible, nor your claim of an occupation as per your quote: "I am an environmental engineer. I work on contaminated sites for a living."

What is the name of the company you work for? You know, the name that goes on top of that check your were talking about.

You use three names, Robert Armstrong, Steve and AdamBaum, non of which are credible.

Mr. Vontran will sell that property as soon as he gets the zoning changed. All the hype about Target, the government center the plans for the property were just that - hype. He does not have to lift a finger once the zoning goes through (if it goes through) to do anything.

By his own time frame of 30 days or more before anything can be done is a clue. The council votes on the zoning issue at the end of August.

Not only that the county has not issued any permits because the developer has not met the requirements for same. The land in its current zoning has no value for a developer.

I use one name Old Man..... my name....Steve. Did you take your meds today?

You asked what statement you made that was not credible and I pointed them out. As always you duck the question which is why your are not credible.

I'll ask it again. You said you work as an environmental engineer. WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE COMPANY?

That should be easy enough even you can answer that one. I guess based on the timing of your comments you work on these sites at night in the dark.

I don't hear any more pats on the back from Peace and Love over you setting the record straight.

Interesting. Now the buzzard can predict the future. That being the case, maybe he can tell us when he will stop tilting at windmills ...... and sensationalizing. Or when his dinner of crow will be publicly eaten.

Hey Steve I saw your quote on the another topic: "I frequently work in Mexico and the process is very easy, almost too easy."

Is there anything you don't do? Another creditability issue. Still waiting on your answer. Is there a reason for the delay. You posted your comment at 4:01 pm.

Yes, I work for a major mining company with facilities in Mexico. Mines are the biggest remediation projects out there.
Do you think for one second I am going to tell a crazy, cyber stalker who I work for. You really are nuts.
The second poster asked a question. I answered it. The rest of the posts are just your psychobabble.

There is more than arsenic and copper at the site.
A competent "environmental engineer" would get the facts straight.

I don't have access to the environmental study and either do you.

It wasn't even a heavy industrial use. It was a bottling plant. The contamination can't be much.

I just saw the environmental report. Just like I said they intend to cap it with dirt, recycled concrete. ( and recycled asphalt.)

Sorry Steve there is a complete report that has be available for some time. It has a company name on it. Read it for us because the toxins are listed. It breaks the whole issue down and was discussed at the meeting.

How is your job in Mexico coming along. You do know about stalking don't you Robert? Doesn't matter what name you use the vocabulary is the same. Why don't you show us your former head you used to use?

Where's the comments and pats on the back now for setting the record straight.

I see Buzz is still rambling on, he sure does know a lot about nothing.

Buzz, are you running for office again this year? If we really want to scare off developers, we can just stick that picture of yours back up on Merritt Blvd.

I see Buzz is still rambling on, he sure does know a lot about nothing.

Buzz, are you running for office again? If we really want to scare off developers, we can just stick that picture of yours back up on Merritt Blvd.

Hey Steve, AKA Robert AKA AdamBaum. You have no say in this. You're not qualified to say anything. Heck, you can't even answer a straight forward question.

You hide in the shadows like your friends. Of course you're a pro at that.

Put your credentials where your mouth is?

You ever hear of zoning laws? I guess not, there above your comprehension ability. He can't do anything he wants. So much for your expertise comments.

You just don't get it Beeker do you?

The whole process is beyond your 9th grade education.

You live in a world of conspiracy theories. Seek Help......... immediately!

My education is listed on my website. I'm real you're not. I have left a mark, you have left nothing.

How is the work coming in those mines in Mexico? You still can't answer a simple question. That is taught in kindergarten school.

Explain the process Robert Armstrong. Nothing has changed from the days of your fake head, except for two new fake names.

Is this the John Vontran that filed for personal bankruptcy Dec. 2010? Interesting...
"Yorkway Developer Files for Chapter 7 Liquidation
Bankruptcy trustee accuses John Vontran of ‘gross mismanagement’ and providing ‘inaccurate and incomplete information.’ Effect on ambitious Dundalk development project remains uncertain, though work continues, a published report says."