Other Tim: The Patch is just one of hundreds of news mediums that preach this doom and gloom. Where do they get it from? Politicians themselves.

Pauly: Please, as if the fear mongering doesn't come from the Republicans equally. Prime example: The "Hollowing out" of our bloated defense spending. Please. You started a great point but wrecked it with idiotic partisanship.

Fear mongering works...it breeds apathy...as can be witnessed in the tone of this thread...

Moe's silver spoon is showing.

I agree! Thank the Good LORD that I'm a Native American!!! The Government has treaties to uphold, however more than that we know how to live off the land and grow hearty crops. We have been pushed on reservations-which worked out well. We have limited pollution and live good simple lives. I feel sorry for the people who will not know what to do...

'There are no "cuts"'

Ask the people that are getting furloughed 22 days a year if that is a distortion?

Yep, time to cut back on bloated defense spending. Time to stop manufacturing wars we could never afford. The "war on terror" wrecked this country financially.

...just as Bin Laden hoped, I might add.

We should start with them ..no question about it....not gonna happen though..

Keep posting CP, I haven't laughed this much since the Ravens won the Super Bowl.

That appears to be crazy talk, please provide a link to the story.

http://nation.foxnews.com/jobs/2013/02/28/maxine-waters-over-170-million-jobs-could-be-lost-due-sequestration

The video is all over the place.

Crazy talk is a good description of it too.

That.s what happens when you watch MSNBC State Media. She's been all over with her idiotic talk. Nice job FIFA.

it is just a good example of the left's fear mongering. The sequester is a small amount of the spending. They need to cut the budget, that is the bottom line. The federal government is out of control.

Fear mongering works...it breeds apathy...as can be witnessed in the tone of this thread......

It was crazy talk. Ever make a mistake Neil? Or just your parents.

I notice you get pretty nasty when you are wrong. Name calling is really childish.

Neil B I don't get nasty when I am wrong, as that rarely happens.

I was correct in my original assessment, what she said is crazy talk, I was not referring to you that is why I asked for the link. Misspoken words by politicians is hardly news to me, whichever side says it.

Regarding you parents, that wasn't nasty, I thought it was funny.

Have a good day.

Not to mention, the following:

1) Businesses paid out dividends in December, due to fiscal cliff/tax increase fears:
2) The Social Security tax 'holiday' (which should have never been implemented to begin with, imo) was intentionally allowed to expire.

The Commerce Department indicates that excluding these two unique, one time events, income was actually up .3%.

So please, keep on spreading half the story, CP.

It's obvious she mixed up her numbers. So get a pitchfork already.....

Is this what the Rightwing Propaganda machine is trying to pass off as news today?

It is an ignorant comment made for one reason, to propagate the agenda.

I don't google for lazy people, I expect posters to support facts, opinions no.

Steve you are a party hack! How do you know she got her numbers mixed up? You just cant admit when a lefty is wrong. which they are 95% of the time.

You can't cut your way to prosperity - look at Greece. Otherwise I think you hit on some solid points.

We have an income gap that destroyed the middle and working class (and the tax base), wars and billions in energy subsidies, and that was combined with tax cuts. Is there any surprised things are the way they are?

Re-ivesting in real, people-run small/med business, in education, return to a more traditional scaled tax structure ... and maybe a solid dose of anti-corruption laws targeting lobbyists might turn the tide.

Wow, RMI just a tad bit racist today? Actually pretty sick, but very revealing. Must have come home from too Happy Hour maybe? He'll delete this one before too long, but I've saved it.

Why would you save it?..parallel mentality..

FIFA - why so testy. Just a joke. Like your many jokes. Have a laugh and move forward. Gotta admit - it was a good "zinger" and you had to think about it to make sure it was not true before you responded!

Sorry RMI, I never believed anything but that it was your normal racist rant. I was right it appears, last warning Buck.

Sorry FIFA. I thought that since your crew has no problems with the lyrics of JZ and Two Chains and they are your heroes, a little zinger would get you a chuckle. Instead, the rage. Ok, don't want you to get upset. I won't mention the comments of Rev. Al lamenting the fact that due to the sequester cuts, many family owned weave and wig shops and tat joints are going out of business.
Don't wanna be disrespectin and what not.

Hey RMI, a pig is a pig is a pig, you prove it everyday of your life. Go away.

Whatever makes you feel manly tonight Buck.

Moe - the problem I see is very simple. The white anglo American race is a breed apart. The desire to be free from 200 plus years ago, to make our life ours has taken our country to amazing heights. To have people come from other countries and races to join in that dream made us stronger. Of course we have had problems, and we worked to solve them. Two huge mistakes made in recent years. First, our desire to bring freedom to other countries - the people in those countries do not have in their DNA the desire for freedom, success and failure as we do. A noble idea, but an incorrect idea. The second was the conservatives not pushing to run urban centers. Their belief was simple - folks do not want to live in the slums, they will find their way out of these slums by hard work. Liberals jumped at the opportunity to take control of the cities, and their massive voting blocks and quickly eroded the American Dream in exchange for votes. The urban centers took off in numbers, the Democrats were able to control more and more and work toward the "victimization" of these groups. The American Dream is dead in these cities. Consvervatives still cannot understand this. We look at Dr. Ben Carson - a marvel, don't know his politics, but we do know he is the best in the business at his profession. We don't understand why HE is not the example for these urban centers and folks like 50 Cent and Two Chains are. When the President appears on "Pimp With a Limp" you know problems exist.

One of the most revealing statements I have ever read in my life RMI as written by you. Simply wow!!

"The white anglo American race is a breed apart. The desire to be free from 200 plus years ago, to make our [white] life ours has taken our [white] country to amazing heights". Congratulations RMI.

Interesting FIFA. Although my heritage is probably like most, a blend of many mixes, yes, I do identify myself as an American who is white. American first, but white. Very proud of that heritage. Other folks of other races should be proud of their heritage as well. If you take it as a slight to you, you have to deal with it. There are reasons why we are one of the few countries that need a fence to keep people out - that shows our success as a country. The American experiment has been a great success, what a great country with unlimited opportunity (no guarantees) to do great things and to fail miserably. The opportunity to learn, take chances, and live in freedom is unlike no other. But we must look at our problems from a statistical approach - this is what did makes our country prosper - analytics. We must review the analytics and they are not good for black americans and minorities (other than Asians). An honest disucssion of why are test scores for blacks in comparison to whites are lower, even in the same schools. To NOT have an honest discussion about this is inherently in its own right racist. To lower the bar as has been done by administrations and to say - you as a black child have a lower expectation than your next door neighbor is racist. The knee jerk reactions of throwing money at the problem does not work. Interesting that you focused on my fist comment but not on the other comments that bringing other races to follow the dream made us stronger.

RMI, your first comment floored me. I don't know what else to say about it. Knowing that we spent the first almost 100 years enslaving black people and the next 100 keeping them down as much as possible to help us get to our amazing heights and to paraphrase you "what an amazing white people" we are. Then you talk about test scores. Wow.

You have no shame, sir.

FIFA, many white people died in the civil war 150 years ago so blacks could have their freedom. 150 years ago was a long time ago, 50 years ago was a long time ago. In an effort to make right some of these wrongs, an aggressive affirmitive action plan was rightfully established. The hope was that would move blacks in to the middle class, and their kids could experience the opportunities that others had. Unfortunately, the results were not as expected. In a prior life I worked in a large professional services organization, we wanted to hire blacks, for many reasons. We wanted to give them opportunity, but we also did believe a mix would bring energy to our organization and we could all prosper. We accepted black applicants with much lower grades and experiences, and worked hard to put them in a place to do well. They unfortunately had no interest, were underperformers, and left. Most went to government work and told us point blank the government was hiring and they just did not want to work hard. Blaming something that happened 150 years ago or 50 years ago will not help. Remember the words of the great Les Brown (he is black). Talking about people who are losers in life and always looking to blame - "90 percent of the people don't care about your problems. The other 10 percent are glad that it is you." To loathe a race as you do is not healthy. To not be proud of your race or heritage is not healthy. To blame others for your failure is not healthy.

RMI, first, full disclosure. I am a white American. Born to a European mother and American father serving in the military in Germany. Not important to the discussion.

When the slaves were freed in the 1860s they were in the lowest economic class. For the next 100 years they were kept in the lowest economic class. Some got out, most did not. White Americans were spread throughout various economic classes during this time.

What you are suggesting is that black Americans have had 50 years in which to make up the head start we white Americans had on them. We were spread out through all of the economic classes and they were at the bottom. You now question why haven't they caught up in the 50 years "we" tried to help them. The same reason we still have poor white rural America is the answer. Crawling out of the bottom is for the very few.

PS - RMI, more died trying to prevent that freedom as I recall.

FIFA, you are unfortunately living in the past. Got somethng for you - everybody, everybody has a story to tell. It could be I was poor, pops rolled out on me, pops and moms fought all the time, I was given everything and now I don't know how to do anything. Your envy for those who have more is hurting you. Being mad at someone who went to Gilman while you went to Woodlawn is not going to help you. Life ain't fair and nobody cares. Pops rolled out on you, you were poor, moms and pops drank all the time, no one cares. Control what you can control. If this happened to you, take control of your life so it does not happen to your kids. Pops rolled out on you, don't roll out on your kids. We live in a competitive society, we are tapped out, can't keep funding groups that don't want to get ahead - it is coming, no matter who is in charge. Simple math at this point.
You have in your mind people wake up every morning and say, how can I make this group's life miserable. A few do. Most wake up and say how can I grow financially, personally, spiritually.
You have a fundamental view of life that folks can never move out of their condition and move forward. One can tell by your miserable posts. I hope you mature and realize that greatness IS in every person, and the only thing holding these people back are the people themselves. Another one by Les Brown "To have what others don't have, you must be willing to do what others don't do." Yes - a black man.