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Sparrows Point Steel Making is History

"A century of steel making as we know it has come to an end" in Baltimore County, says County Executive Kevin Kamenetz.

 

The future of more than five miles of land in Sparrows Point no longer lies in in the steel mills.

Owners of the former RG Steel plant plan to sell off a $300 million cold mill and eventually raze the buildings on the property, selling the remains for scrap. A second company that owns the land will end up being responsible for helping the county shape the future of the industrial land, according to County Executive Kevin Kamenetz.

"A century of steel-making as we know it has come to an end," said Kamenetz during a Thursday news conference.

Kamenetz said Hilco Trading which owns some of the buildings and equipment, "plans to liquidate every asset and bring the structures down to the ground."

The announcement brings an end to the plant that had seen its share of financial troubles dating back three decades—first as a result of cheap foriegn steel and more recently a worldwide glut of the commodity.

About 2,000 employees will lose their jobs permanently.

"We don't have any indication that these jobs will come back in the form they knew," Kamenetz said.

"We don't have hope," said the county executive, adding "we do have help."

The county will spend more than $1 million to hire four more workers to do outreach work with displaced steel workers. This is in addition to three county Economic Development employees already doing such work out of an office in Eastpoint.

Meanwhile, the county says it is looking ahead to the future of the waterfront property that is zoned for industrial manufacturing and is roughly the size of White Marsh.

"We're tough here in Baltimore County," Kamenetz said. "We get knocked down and we get back up. We're going to bring thousands of jobs back to this penninsula. We have a game plan in place."

Kamenetz said the county had been preparing for the worst case scenario.

"The handwriting was pretty much on the wall," he said of the expected closure of the plant.

Part of the county's vision for the future of the mill property relies on a work group the county formed earlier this year to look at future uses of the property.

Dan Gundersen, director of Economic Development for the county, said that future could lie in the expansion of the Port of Baltimore as well as other logistical and manufacturing businesses.

"It's really going to open up a lot of opportunity," Gundersen said.

Kamenetz said he expects that Environmental Liability Transfer, the owner of the land and some buildings, will be a partner in that development.

"We expect ELT, as the landowner, to make that future happen," Kamenetz said.

Related Topics: Bryan Sears, Dan Gundersen, Kevin Kamenetz, RG Steel, RG Steel assets auctioned, RG Steel files for bankruptcy, Sparrows Point MD, Sparrows Point Mill, and insider politics

number9dream

9:07 pm on Thursday, December 13, 2012

Does this include the "L" blast furnace?

If that's razed then yes, it's truly the end.

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Greg Stotler

10:41 pm on Thursday, December 13, 2012

"The county will spend more than $1 million to hire four more workers to do outreach work with displaced steel workers." This seems like an excessive salary for just 4 outreach workers.

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Geoffrey Atkinson

5:42 am on Friday, December 14, 2012

Salaries of HR during search and processing, salaries for workers, benefits, office space for them. Then paying for whatever it is they need to do their job - office supplies, phones, what have you.

People are expen$ive.

kevin

11:22 pm on Thursday, December 13, 2012

Uh didn't Hilco Oversee assets for Solyundra? Kevin it's sick how you gave these workers false hopes.god bless allthose point employees. They were used by venture capitalists and then lied to by county officials , they KNEW when it went into Hilco hands there was NO Chance.

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Steve

11:27 pm on Thursday, December 13, 2012

Everybody knew that it was a done deal. The Sparrows Point workers knew what was happening for about the last 20 years or so. If they didn't save their money, well. it's their fault.

How many of them voted for Mitt Romney? What a bunch of stupid asses...

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Geoffrey Atkinson

5:46 am on Friday, December 14, 2012

Last I checked this was all going down under O'Malley. Maybe if O'Malley had backed Obama instead of Hillary Clinton there could have been a bail out. But nope - MOM and Obama are both content watching their union member shills become unemployed. Thanks for the votes! Not!

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Steve

6:20 am on Friday, December 14, 2012

Where have you been living? The Governor has been the President's point man for a long time.

SP was gutted by Romney's Vulture capitalist buddies starting with Wilbur Ross, then the Russians and finished up by his best bud Ira Rennert.

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Jim O'Toole

6:22 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

Steve,
That is a rather callus attitude to have. It is hard to believe That your brain would allow your ass to utter them words.This downward trend started many years ago with the plant suffering in the market place....

Rob J

5:14 am on Friday, December 14, 2012

Kamenetz is an idiot and has no idea what he's doing

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NottinghamFamily

5:44 am on Friday, December 14, 2012

I shudder to think of what will become of the property. I picture some hideous mega shopping complex or a hoarde of new homes the schools and community infrastructure can't support. What a disaster for the community and for this country. So many times I rode past there over the years and pondered how magnificent it must have been to have a steel giant operating right in our back yards and the robust economy it supported. Now it's just a shell of its former self, just like this country is becoming under the current economic leadership we have. I feel for the workers, although they sadly have known this was coming and hopefully have prepared in other ways the best they could. At least now we have "cheap imported steel", which seems like what the powers that be wanted all along. Sad situation.

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Steve

6:24 am on Friday, December 14, 2012

It's too contaminated for that. The land will have to stay industrial. The residential and shopping complex will be built on the SP Golf Course when that place goes belly up.

Geoffrey Atkinson

6:16 am on Friday, December 14, 2012

Ten bucks says they will want to put in a casino.

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Needaname

6:38 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

Twenty bucks says there will be a casino and a River Boat to bring you up from the Inner Harbor ! I remember 45 years ago driving down that way. My Dad in Management at The Point. Very sad.

Skip727

6:23 am on Friday, December 14, 2012

Mr. Kamenetz, I have questions:
What 'game plan' do you have in place? How much will it cost Baltimore County taxpayers? What financial gains do YOU get out of it?

Just asking.

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heather

9:03 am on Friday, December 14, 2012

This is what they wanted to happen. The point didn't get any help because they want to use the property for the port.

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Brad Metheny

5:40 am on Sunday, December 16, 2012

It was never about anything else but freeing up the land from the steel company's

M. Sullivan

10:36 am on Friday, December 14, 2012

Why do the steelworkers get special help from the County? Others get laid off all the time and are on their own. Let their wonderful union help them. It's the ridiculous union wages and benefits that are the ultimate cause of the downfall of the steel industry anyway.

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Needaname

6:39 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

I agree. Where are the Unions ?

Native

11:25 am on Friday, December 14, 2012

This is the direct result of years of union rule.

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Dennis Gilpin

11:38 am on Friday, December 14, 2012

I wonder where all the salvage materials will end up. If it goes to China ( and we need steel ) I guess they will supply it. If the Point is changed over to create jobs that would be great. The transistion period might take many years, meanwhile the laid off steelworkers ( many at retirement age ) are left with few options and no insurance. If the President saved the auto industry ( by pumping in funds ) is it in his best interest to help the our failing steel industry ? Many looked to the unions to support them but the bargaining tools they used were based on a robust economy .If we get into a situation where our country needs an immediate use for steel should we be dependent on another country as we are on oil ? Everybody looks at the profit margin in a business but at whose expense ? A profitable business is great as long as it supports our economy.

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Steve

11:57 am on Friday, December 14, 2012

It's not the Union's fault. That's hogwash. They are just being made a scapegoat. The steel industry collapsed due to the strong dollar, the explosion of energy prices , and the softening of demand in some sectors

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Native

12:33 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

It's not hogwash at all. Sanchez is right, the high costs due to the union contracts contributed mightily to the companies inability to survive.

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Sanchez

3:27 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

If I said water was wet Stevie would deny it.

Sanchez

12:13 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

Legacy costs due to union demands killed Beth Steel.
In the 1980's BS had more retirees and dependents than workers. 35000 workers and 75000 retirees and dependents. Hardly sustainable. Hardly something any prospective buyer could not cope with.

It also had a pension plan that it judged underfunded by more than $1 billion. The company was meanwhile feeling the great rise in medical costs that walloped the 1980s. And for its medical promises to retirees, Bethlehem had no funding at all. None.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2004/04/05/366339/index.htm

"U.S. Steel will scrap plans to buy Bethlehem Steel because the Bush administration will not pay health care costs for retirees, Bethlehem Steel's chairman said Tuesday."
http://articles.mcall.com/2002-03-06/news/3391991_1_burns-harbor-bethlehem-steel-legacy-costs

"Bethlehem Steel seeks help with its legacy costs
CEO tells Congress it was U.S. policies that put industry in debt."

Some people deny things daily and refuse to see the truth.

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Sanchez

12:14 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

"'Legacy' Costs Drive Big Changes
In Steel, and Retirees Lose Out
By ROBERT GUY MATTHEWS
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
The American steel industry is in the midst of a quiet but potentially profound transformation driven by companies' costly obligations to retirees.
U.S. steelmakers face an estimated $10 billion in costs for the health care, life insurance and pensions they promised in the past to retirees, who now far outnumber active steelworkers. These expenses, known as legacy costs, make it harder to compete with imports and are a key reason many companies can't earn a profit. In the past four years, 31 have filed for bankruptcy, either to liquidate or reorganize. The liquidating ones have left 125,000 retirees and dependents without the benefits they had been promised."

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Sanchez

12:15 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

Legacy costs due to union demands killed Beth Steel.
In the 1980's BS had more retirees and dependents than workers. 35000 workers and 75000 retirees and dependents. Hardly sustainable. Hardly something any prospective buyer could not cope with.

It also had a pension plan that it judged underfunded by more than $1 billion. The company was meanwhile feeling the great rise in medical costs that walloped the 1980s. And for its medical promises to retirees, Bethlehem had no funding at all. None.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2004/04/05/366339/index.htm

"U.S. Steel will scrap plans to buy Bethlehem Steel because the Bush administration will not pay health care costs for retirees, Bethlehem Steel's chairman said Tuesday."
http://articles.mcall.com/2002-03-06/news/3391991_1_burns-harbor-bethlehem-steel-legacy-costs

"Bethlehem Steel seeks help with its legacy costs
CEO tells Congress it was U.S. policies that put industry in debt."

Some people deny things daily and refuse to see the truth.

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Al Day

12:59 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

Legacy costs were the result of deals between Bethlehem Steel Corporation and the Steel Workers Union. Both are responsible for what came next. Mistrust by both sides prevented re-negotiating contracts in order to save jobs. Now its all academic.

Steve

12:38 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

Oh Geez,
Now JoeBlob/aka Sanchez is going to try and inundate this thread with his usual cut and paste nonsense.

The Steel industry in General and Beth Steel in particular didn't crater because of labor costs. If that was even a possibility than the non Union Steelmakers in the US wouldn't be in trouble. They are in the same boat.

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Sanchez

12:43 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

Your opinion is useless since you have been proven wron over and over again. I post support for what I say and you cannot stand it. thus your ignorance. Do you need more links to show you that legacy costs mattered hugely in the closing of the plant? There are many many more in depth articles but since you seem unable to read they would be useless to you. Keep denying the truth Stevie.

Sanchez

12:45 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

Stevie says "how dare someone come here and provide support for their comments? How dare they say something that they can back up with facts."

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Sanchez

12:47 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

Stevie, please explain how any company that has 35000 workers that are supposed to support 75000 retirees and dependents.. You have yet been able to explain anything you spew forth other than it is your opinion.

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Steve

1:01 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

It's not even worth it to respond to your posts anymore JoeBlob. It's like talking to a rock.

The Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation (PBGC) picked up the Lion's share of the legacy costs.

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Sanchez

1:18 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

Stevie, that does not change the fact that the legacy costs were a huge part of the collapse as the many many articles I have linked to support.

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Sanchez

1:20 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

If you were literate you could read what that did to the PBGC.
From their own report.

"The Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation (PBGC),
an agency of the federal government, has recently taken
over several large pension plans of bankrupt U.S. airline
and steel companies. At the same time, the agency’s own
financial condition has worsened, raising the specter of a
sharply reduced pension for some insured workers or the
need to provide taxpayers’ dollars to PBGC.
Under currentlaw, PBGC insures pension benefits only to the extent
that it has assets to make such payments from premiums,
investment income, assets of failed pension plans,
and recoveries from bankrupt plan sponsors."

I would provide the link but it would be useless unless you could read it.

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Sanchez

1:27 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

"CBO’s Estimates
The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimates that
the present value of PBGC’s net costs for defined-benefit
pension insurance for single-employer plans over the next
10 years is about $86.7 billion. That total consists of two
distinct components: $23.3 billion of losses from insurance
claims for plans that have already terminated or
whose termination is imminent, and $63.4 billion of prospective
losses over the next 10 years for terminations that
have not yet occurred, net of future premiums1 (see Summary
Table 1). Total costs (“sunk”—for plans that have
been terminated—and prospective) for 15- and 20-year
horizons are $119 billion and $141.9 billion, respectively."

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Sanchez

1:39 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

Steve says "It's not even worth it to respond to your posts anymore JoeBlob. You keep showing me I am wrong and posting facts and all I got is my opinion. "

Al Day

12:53 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

I have an oil painting done back in the late 1800's of Sparrows Point when it was an orchard and farm land. The painting was done as if you were on a boat just off shore on water known as Jones' Creek. If it goes back to nature it won't be all bad.

As far as the politics involved with the steel business, all business for that matter, it really doesn't matter the party or who was in office. Cheap foreign imports made by workers who live in slave conditions have replaced most everything ever made here by industry. Black and Decker is another example. They even tried having their products made in China in order to compete. In a nation where the standard of living is relatively high compared to other places the outcome is inevitable for our somewhat naive society. The knockout blow coming when we were sold the free trade fantasy. Other nations, some enemies merely used this means to strip our nation of it's industrial base leaving us vulnerable. Without real change (not the kind Washington offers) there will be a continuation of the downhill slide and downfall of this country. Sparrows Point is only one facet on this journey. Selling the scrap from what's left of the buildings to China and others will seal the deal. And only hard work will even allow us to survive with any dignity. Worst is the fact that many believe hard work is something others do.

One place to start to rebuild is to end the government yoke on business with it's myriad of regulations.

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Weston Szpondowski

1:02 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

America of the future is sad. Sparrows Point was one of the few integrated mills left standing from an era of prosperity. Today's kids will grow up to a life in poverty and never know the prosperity we once had here in America. I'm not a union guy just a person who is witnessing a downfall of this nation. Wages just keep getting lower and things just keep getting worse. We are well on our way to being Mexico. The service jobs will never fill the holes in the economy that big manufacturing once filled.

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Weston Szpondowski

1:06 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

It was a free trade fantasy alright. I'm still waiting for all the jobs, jobs, jobs Clinton said would be here. I knew it was a lie from the start and the reason I will never vote or trust a Democrat. I'd rather pay low taxes on my suppressed wages than be taxed up to the eyeballs. Either way with either party there will be no jobs because both have sold us out.

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Sanchez

1:15 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

The unions are responsible for the automation of much of the manufacturing in the US. The auto plants were some of the first large manufacturing that spawned robotics for many of the line jobs. the robots did not break for lunch with weed and alcohol, they did not demand days off, they did not threaten strikes. robotics is what allowed the US auto industry to last as long as it did. Without that efficiency added the price of auto's would have been high enough to keep sales low and thus financial problems.

If unions are not the problem, why did the foreign manufacturers build all their new plants in right to work states in the south?

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Steve

1:24 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

Sparrows Point was just a junk pile that had been picked over and left to rot by the Vulture Capitalists. This was the only piece that was worth salvaging.

What's wrong with Mexico. They are forecasting a boom in their economy next year. Mexican employers will be paying the Aquinalda which is the mandated guaranteed annual bonus.

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Sanchez

1:31 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

That's why they are risking their lives and dying in the desert coming to evil Amerikka because their labor policies are so "progressive" right Stevie?

Al Day

2:14 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

The Lord deals with nations the same as with individuals. He told us if we failed to heed his statutes and commandments the earth would vomit us out. Ironic the talk has turned to Mexico. I live down here on the border being a transplant from Edgemere and the only thing Mexico is making besides babies is drugs and the sales to the US are phenominal. The local sherrif is busy all the time catching loads of the stuff and is only getting a small portion headed for the urban centers up north. Drugs are a great way to soothe those who have no hope finding work. I suppose when the final collapse does occur the enemy will find our people in a haze of drug enduced stupor. I think it was the founder of Home Depot who told reporters recently that he could not start the same business in America today due to all that now exists.

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FIFA_archived

2:20 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

The "Lord" ignores everyone equally.

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Arbutus Town Crier

2:44 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

Fefe you sound like a anti-religious bigot? Tolerance in ones faith should be respected.

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Arbutus Town Crier

2:49 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

Sanchez,
are you talking about a town in Germany Amerika,or Amerikka: Year 2000" The Movie? please be clear steph may not know better

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FIFA_archived

2:50 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

Crybaby, just giving another point of view. You appear to be the bigot, as your lack of tolerance of one's non-faith is apparent.

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Arbutus Town Crier

3:32 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

Fefe you have proven to be a bigot, like a alcoholic in denial only to attack others by calling them what you believe you are. reverse tactic to put out yourself on a high ground. Fefe you might want to look down and see your feet is on the ground. who knows the heat you feel is not athletes feet but fire from below. On subject About 2,000 employees will lose their jobs permanently that is sad in today's economy.

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Sanchez

3:36 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

Can anyone find and post any comments by Fifi that are NOT just snide replies aimed at other posters? Anyone? Any?

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FIFA_archived

3:38 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

Crybaby, your absurdity is only exceeded by Joe's idiocy.

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FIFA_archived

3:39 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

As if Joe has ever written an intelligent thought. The Supreme Chicken Hawk Joe is.

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Sanchez

3:47 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

I rest my case against Fifi since he has proven me correct that fast with his latest 2 comments.

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Arbutus Town Crier

3:49 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

Sanchez, That's hard to do when the comments are deleted !

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FIFA_archived

3:51 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

Yea right Joe, you were deleted by the Patch. I don't delete my comments. Is that you crybaby that deletes their comments?

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Arbutus Town Crier

4:05 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

No I don't delete anyone Free Speech is not against the law, the self painted bigot is also not against the law. I would not delete Fefe, has every right to paint himself! right Joe?

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Sanchez

4:17 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

just click on Fifi's name, then click on "comments" and see most every one of its replies contains the name of some other poster who is in his sights and a snide slur to that poster. Go there and see for yourselves.

Many many include my name as his target dujour.

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FIFA_archived

4:26 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

Whoopee, just click on Joe's name.... Oh, that is right, his account was deleted. My, my, my...

Steve

2:19 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

"If unions are not the problem, why did the foreign manufacturers build all their new plants in right to work states in the south?"

1.Cheap Infrastructure
2. Hefty state subsidies
3. People. The Southern states have the people to work in and support the auto plants. The population of the South has been growing in leaps and bounds.

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Sanchez

2:29 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

RIGHT TO WORK states all! Lies by omission are your forte.

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Sanchez

2:31 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

Michigan never gave any incentives to the auto industry did they Stevie?
And you better ask Frank what the definition of subsidy is.

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Steve

2:59 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

Michigan never gave any incentives for foreign automobile manufacturers. Why would they? The southern states did though. They gave them huge subsidies.

http://washingtonindependent.com/22236/cars

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Sanchez

3:17 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

Stevie's latest in his school of red herrings "Michigan never gave any incentives for foreign automobile manufacturers.

I cannot find anywhere anyone specifying foreign makers. When you are losing Stevie in the factual arena you go to your school of red herrings sooner than you turn to you binky when disturbed.

"Michigan Fires Up $43.9M in Incentives for GM, German Parts-Maker"
"Gov. Jennifer Granholm was all about turning Michigan into the nation’s capital for manufacturing electric car batteries. It’s far from clear that the billions invested in those industries will pay off."

More proof is just redundant since Stevie will continue to deny the truth as reasonable minds see it.

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Steve

3:44 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

Because there aren't any non union domestic automobile manufacturing plants Dumbo.

Steve

2:35 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

".... the only thing Mexico is making besides babies is drugs." That's an asinine statement.

Mexico is:

The 6th largest electronics exporter in the World
#1 in the world in the manufacture of TV's
#3 in the world in the manufacture of computers
#3 in the world in the manufacture of mobile phones
#6 in the world in oil production
#2 in the wold in the mining of Silver

.......and the list goes on..

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Sanchez

3:18 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

Rhetorical use of verses goes right over your head in your zeal to attempt to make others look as bad as you do.

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Sanchez

3:44 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

thank you again for supporting my comment on legacy costs with your link Stevie. From your link,
"4. HEAD-IN-THE-SAND UNION – The United Steelworkers of America, led by Leo Gerard, David McCall and Tom Conway, has executed disaster after disaster. First the triumvirate allowed billionaire Wilbur Ross to dump Beth Steel’s pension and health care benefits in 2002-03, which hurt tens of thousands of retirees and widows, many from Sparrows Point. Mordashov did invest in the plant, but the union turned on him when he insisted on work-rule changes and job cutbacks.

As a crowning achievement, the International picked Rennert as the next buyer of Sparrows Point and Warren.

McCall brushed aside suggestions that he cultivate other potential buyers (such as Argentina’s Ternium group) or sell Sparrows Point separately from the Midwest mills. McCall wanted Rennert and Rennert he got, a man whose last foray into the steel business resulted in the bankruptcy of the USW-represented Warren plant.

Gerard, McCall and Conway remain ensconced in union headquarters in Pittsburgh and Columbus, Ohio, three spoiled satraps as distant from their membership as Rennert is from his steel company."

The unions even scared way possible new owners.

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Needaname

6:42 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

Sanchez - Steve and Fifa are Trolls. Thanks for you intelligent input. I learn some NEW things today.

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Arbutus Town Crier

9:17 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

Sanchez
I agree with Needaname ! This is what input we need on Patch
VIVA Sanchez ! ! Enjoy everything.... Great read!

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Steve

12:08 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012

Sanchez
3:07 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
Fifi, just look at these deaths as retro active abortions which you have no problem with.

Arbutus Town Crier
9:17 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012
Sanchez
I agree with Needaname ! This is what input we need on Patch
VIVA Sanchez ! ! Enjoy everything.... Great read!

Yep, Birds of a feather.

Whacked

10:01 pm on Friday, December 14, 2012

Another Hershey Park would be nice (after you sprayed it with Lysol & covered it
in concrete).

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Needaname

5:51 am on Saturday, December 15, 2012

A Hershey Park would be a great idea, and throw in a River Boat to take people back and forth from the Inner Harbor. I wonder how they would de-contaminate the landscape.

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Steve

12:02 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012

....and Benzene. The levels of Benzene (a Carcinogen) are 100,000 times the established safe limit in Bear Creek.

But yet people let their kids swim in it.......

ravcolm

7:06 am on Saturday, December 15, 2012

I believe it is time to seriously think about replacing the 2000 jobs with ones that are real and well paying. This will help the community, county and region. The industrial land, owned by ELT and not the county, is exploring long term alternatives for its use. It's strategic location on deepwater and a still active freight rail sytem makes it a rather unique and potentially sought-after peninsula found nowhere else in Maryland, or perhaps the east coast. It is time for the community get behind a logical and well thought through future for the acreage. New and real jobs are the key. Hopefully, logic will prevail.

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DAN

12:20 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012

There is no "logical and well thought through future for the acreage".
The community was deliberately left out of the Sparrows Point Partnership.
Your comments reflect the opinion of County government and the Port.
Baltimore County has a plan for the peninsula, but it is not one that will make this
area a better place to live.

jack friese

8:46 am on Saturday, December 15, 2012

What would any reasonable person expect? Stay in Maryland and struggle every day fending off the regulations, politicians and red tape by the many agencies whose sole purpose is to increase the cost of doing business in Maryland
Under O'Malley, Kamenetz and their cronies, Maryland is so anti business, filled with taxes, permits, regulations,harassment, red tape and other nonsense, companies are fleeing from our once Great State. The exodus will continue at increasing rates with business and families running, not walking out of this State. Just how many companies and how many thousands jobs have been lost under the O'Malley administration?
What a shame, Maryland is in the toilet and there is no excuse that this wonderful business in now finished because of union demands, Government stupidity and economic realities of trying to run a business in Maryland. Maryland needs to be a right to work State so business can compete on a fair basis.
Our General Assembly should look into the reasons why The Sparrows Point Steel Mill is being razed. Start with Kamanetz and ask him, Mr. County Executive what did you do specifically to try to save this 2,000 person employee company. When he has no answers ask the same questions to Governor O'Malley and his brain trusts. Then go to the General Assembly and remember their answers in 2014 then let's thrown the bums out!
Wake up folks it is almost too late. Business and citizens are not ATM's for the State of Maryland. Or are they?

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William Lutostanski Jr

11:52 am on Saturday, December 15, 2012

How about the LPG Plant? That could have been in the process of being built right now, putting people to work. Now Sparrows Point is an empty wasteland generating no revenue for anyone. Would a LPG plant really be worse then a giant steel making plant ? I can't imagine it would.

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DAN

12:22 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012

That's LNG, and you've got to be joking!

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William Lutostanski Jr

1:18 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012

My bad LNG is correct. I am not joking Dan. It is an industrial area I do not see the problem with this type of plant in this area. Jobs , Jobs, Jobs !!!!

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Steve

1:47 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012

The pipeline easements are already in place.

Steve

11:57 am on Saturday, December 15, 2012

The plants in West Virginia are belly up too. Is that the Governor's fault ?

If you don't like it here then move.

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Mark Cook

9:55 am on Thursday, December 20, 2012

we would rather you leave,go set on your ass at the hall on Dundalk ave. and wait too be bull shitted again.what a stupid ass. you can follow O'Malley's stupid ass to Washington maybe.

jack friese

12:19 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012

I partially agree with Rob J Kamenetez is and idiot, and political hack; but, is smart enough to get some hefty "pay outs" for his "employment" with the State of Maryland. It is no wonder this County and State are damn near bankrupt. Under the current administration, another two years will push this State over the fiscal cliff and O'Malley's buddy in the White House will bail Maryland out of this mess.

This is really a bad joke on Maryland citizens!

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ravcolm

2:19 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012

Dan, I am ex-railroader who understands how valuable it is to have two class one RR's (CSX and NS) be able to bring and take goods out of an area. That provides an excellent competitive environment. I don't represent the county or the port, only speaking facts. You raise a good point, however. Who from the community should be involved? Do they care about developing industrial land for new jobs? What should be the goal for the community?

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DAN

3:20 pm on Saturday, December 15, 2012

That important question doesn't have one good answer. The community
has been left out of the conversation. Perhaps port expansion or more dirty
industries would not be favored by area residents.

Jim O'Toole

12:18 am on Tuesday, December 18, 2012

I have been reading alot of the comments by various individuals who sound like they are very knowledgeable with the current situation at the Sparrows Point Plant. I guess the truth of the matter is what will be done next. The truth of the matter is that nothing will be done unless we stop the finger pointing to place blame. Yes maybe we should take a hard look at what went wwrong. But do it honestly

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Mark Cook

8:52 am on Thursday, December 20, 2012

just show up,you don't have to work,look at the Damn union then take a good look at your self.I would be down there working on the caster's and RG's people would be on break all damn day long.what a bunch of crap.you people supported the people that cost us all our jobs.

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Mark Cook

9:30 am on Thursday, December 20, 2012

our local government,and local 9477 new all along what was going too happen.as for the worker's they should have worked their Damn jobs instead of the damn break room.I worked on the steel caster's and if and when they were down,they could care less.they wanted overtime so they could set on their asses and get a pay check.It may not been all of them,but there was more people not working then there was working.and that's a Damn shame.

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