Man Hospitalized After Dundalk Stabbing

Eastsider August 26, 2012 at 07:18 pm

I live in Logan Village and have for the past 46 years. And how many years do have in the area? Remember MTO? Even though some will say it never happened. I beg to differ it may not have been that exact name used but the trash from Baltimore City has invaded Dundalk. From St. Helena, Old Dundalk, West Inverness, Colgate, Berkshire and of course the Village all has been victims of the political mess for many many years. And when was it ever safe to walk through the village?

Penny Dawalt August 26, 2012 at 10:00 pm

1960 my first job murphys candy counter.I lived in Sparrows Point, and felt safe to ride the bus to and from Logan Village

Steve August 26, 2012 at 10:03 pm

Dundalk (and Essex) didn't get any of the people who were in the Moving to Opportunity (MTO) program.

Shell9 August 26, 2012 at 11:29 pm

I agree!!!! I was born and raised in Dundalk too.. It is a shame that our politicians are rewarded with re elections while they sit around and do nothing. I do hope that we send a message this election. We are tired of taking in everyone's tired and poor. So unfair because we have a beautiful community..

Shell9 August 26, 2012 at 11:37 pm

I beg to differ about the MTO. Dundalk did get more than it's share of the MTO's relocated tenants. So did Essex!!! When Essex knocked down it's section 8 housing such as Tall Trees, Kingsley Park, Dundalk received quite a few of them. I know this because at the time I was a service coordinator and many of my families were placed in Dundalk. As far as MTO, Former Mayor Schmoke initiated the MTO drama. He could not handle all the poor in the city so he tried (and succeeded) by getting rid of some of them.

will August 27, 2012 at 12:43 pm

Its sad how this neighborhood has changed.Born n raised in stanbrook lived in gray manor since 2000. I wouldn't walk anywhere at night here anymore unless I'm carrying. The crap that just walks past my house is scary. This coming from someone who was never afraid of anything. Feel so sorry for the kids that have to grow up in this shithole today.2 more yrs. N I'm troutadale VA. Here I come.!!!"

Katie Daven August 27, 2012 at 03:20 pm

No, it all started when all of the industry moved out/closed down. It is a lesson in socioeconomics. A once proud, hardworking community destroyed by disinterested and greedy politicians. We've been hung out to dry. The 'Point', General Motors, Western Electric, Eastern Stainless etc., all good paying jobs to help a community thrive, gone! The best way to take a community down is to destroy its economy. Thus, the resulting attitudes of hoplessness and complacency. Reliance on government subsidy does not breed self efficiency. I hope folks wake up soon and realize that money will be gone too someday. Hopefully the revitalization of Merrit Park is an indication of good things to come.
Katie

Parkvillehoney August 27, 2012 at 04:45 pm

Looks like another wave of "poor" residents will be moving into the counties. In the Sunday Sun on page 2 an article details another move to opportunity. It is tiltled "Fair-housing case settlement seen as progress." The article states close to 2000 families will be given the opportunity to move to better neighborhoods. Why did I bust my butt to work for a home in a nice neighborhood. I just should have been poor and I would have been given the same opportunity to live in my neighborhood. We have 2 families that are on subsidized rent and they are a handful. They must still think they live where it is "normal' to be in the street at all hours of the night, fighting and talking loud in the middle of the street. I think Mayor Stephanie Rawlings Blake wants all poor moved out of Baltimore City. I feel sorry for all homeowners in the state of Maryland.

Steve August 27, 2012 at 04:51 pm

No they didn't. Both area's (Essex and Dundalk) per capita income was too low and they couldn't pass the MTO 10% standard.
The high rise projects in the City were under a Federal Court order to be demolished and the residents relocated (as was every other high rise public housing project in the country). Schmoke didn't have anything to do with it

Shell9 August 27, 2012 at 05:41 pm

Yes.. MTO residents did come to Dundalk and Essex. A politician will swear from Here to Sunday that the MTO and Section 8 housing residences weren't placed in Dundalk. Fact is they were. Good to know that we live in a free country where we are able to express ourselves..

Eastsider August 27, 2012 at 05:50 pm

Steve,
So since you’re so up on this topic where did the families go from the projects that was torn down? Im sure they did not go to Towson or Dulaney Valley

Steve August 27, 2012 at 06:00 pm

Most stayed in the city. AS for the MTO Program there were 265 families involved and only 40 moved to Baltimore County. They are scattered though out the county and like I said none of them moved to either Essex oor Dundalk because the 10% requirement of the program precluded it.

Eastsider August 27, 2012 at 06:06 pm

OK with that said then where did the trash come that now resides in Dundalk and Essex?

Steve August 27, 2012 at 06:15 pm

It was a trashy place way before they tore the high rises in the City down.

Parkvillehoney August 27, 2012 at 06:18 pm

According to the Sunday Sun article dated 08/25/2012, since the 1990's, Baltimore Housing Mobility Program has since moved more than 1,800 familes to better neighborhoods in the city and counties. Under this new program, HUD will provide extra money primarily for Africian American familes. It will include more than 2,000 familes. Why is it OK to have segregated white communities but the government doesn't want segregated Africian American communities.

Parkvillehoney August 27, 2012 at 06:37 pm

I beg to differ with you Steve. My relatives lived in Dundalk until the 90's. It was a great place to live. Dundalk Shopping Center had a nice movie theater, restaurant and great locally owned stores. Eastpoint was a thriving shopping center that was filled with shoppers. The problem is the absentee landlords and low life renters that don't know to live among responsible homeowners. Look at the litter and trash thrown out in plastic bags, which causes rats. I believe when you don't have a monetary interest in a home, you don't care. Since the government pays landlords more for a subsidized renter than a regular renter would pay, guess who the landlords are renting to.

Eastsider August 27, 2012 at 06:47 pm

Steve,
What sanctuary community in Maryland do you live?

Steve August 27, 2012 at 07:20 pm

Maryland only has 3 sanctuary communities (Cumberland,Gaithersburg and Takoma Park) and I don't live in any of them.

Steve August 27, 2012 at 07:20 pm

Katie hit the nail on the head in her post

Eastsider August 27, 2012 at 07:27 pm

Katie hit only one truth of the entire story of the demise of Dundalk/Essex. The large selection of housing rentals to section 8 is another part of the story. Steve, you call Dundalk/Essex trashy lets us know what community you live in.

Steve August 27, 2012 at 07:31 pm

How many Section 8 unit are actually in that area. It's easy to find out and it isn't that many. Dundalk has had Section 8 housing since the '40's.

Shell9 August 27, 2012 at 07:47 pm

I love Dundalk. I grew up here and now I have a home of my own..It once was a thriving place for businesses. I am torn whether to move or stay the coarse. It has beautiful tree lined street, nice homes and nice parks. Also we have organized sports for the kids activities for adults. It can be nice again. We need to get rid of the lazy politicians that we have rewarded constantly with re-elections. They have done nothing to help us to better our community. I had hoped that the property at North Point Village would have been a nice shopping area. Instead they are putting homes there. Merritt Blvd Shopping center will probably be a disaster.. We need real leadership, not empty promises.

Eastsider August 27, 2012 at 07:52 pm

Steve you make alot of statements but never show any facts to back them up.

Phil Weber August 27, 2012 at 08:54 pm

Well said Katie.

John T. August 28, 2012 at 12:03 pm

How can anyone blame Republicans? We continue to re-elect the same people who happen to be almost entirely democrat. There are so few Republicans elected that they are not even relevant. Amazing.

John T. August 28, 2012 at 12:12 pm

If they want to put more HUD housing in NPV who do we blame now? When you have one party rule this is what you get. And that would be the same if we elected Republicans at the same rate that we elect democrats. But we'll just keep re-electing the same people and expect a different outcome. Isn't that the definition of insanity?

John T. August 28, 2012 at 12:19 pm

Sounds like we're talking about an insect infestation. Thank God most of the bugs stayed in the city and did not spread.

John T. August 28, 2012 at 12:47 pm

Steve. You always take the side of goofy. And you liberals embrace this stuff. I Love It! In 1993 at a meeting about MTO, as explained by representatives of the program, to myself and the countless other homeowners in Dundalk when it was proposed, included the following: 1. Candidates for the program had to go through a training process before they qualified for the program. It included such things as cutting your grass when it grows, and taking trash out on trash day(when this was stated, I guess they thought our concerns should be put to rest).. 2. Candidates did not have a work requirement. However, the theory behind the program was to integrate these people amongst the working class and the working class lifestyle, watching us get up for work everyday, putting our children through school, spending time with our families, etc., would rub off on the people in the MTO program. Oh, and the MTO program would pay as much as double the going rate to landlords to entice them to rent their properties to this group. Sounds like training animals not humans. But this is what 50 years of welfare and handouts does for people. We've allowed this stuff to go on for so long you now have several generations of people that refuse to do or think for themselves. It's been bred out of them.

John T. August 28, 2012 at 12:49 pm

Steve lives in Fantasyland.

Shell9 August 28, 2012 at 05:15 pm

Well Said...Thank you